Episode 86: Bypass with Craig Cashwell

June 18, 2018

We sit down today with Craig Cashwell, PhD. to talk about his research and practical application into the nature of spiritual bypass.  Dr. Cashwell looks at how we either move toward or away from emotionally or psychologically difficult spaces- the use of spirituality or religion being one of the ways we can either move toward or away.

Join us for a thoughtful and illuminating conversation with Dr. Cashwell.
Show notes: Craig mentioned authors you may want to look more into: John Welwood and Charles Whitfield among others.  
Research on the Spiritual Bypass Scale Dr. Cashwell mentioned can be found here: http://psycnet.apa.org/record/2017-45103-001

Episode 85: Healthy, Fun, Connecting Sex in Recovery with Alex Katehakis

June 11, 2018

We have the fortune to sit down with Alex Katehakis again (we interviewed her in Episode 64) to talk about her new book Sexual Reflections: A Workbook for Designing and Celebrating Your Sexual Health Plan.

You won't want to miss this one- Alex brings her signature wisdom, warmth, and intelligence to a conversation packed with ideas to help you experience your sexual self as an integrated, shame-resilient person.
You can get your copy of Sexual Reflections from Amazon.com
You can learn more about Alex and her work at:

Episode 84: Why do new relationships feel so weird (sometimes)? Part 2

June 4, 2018
Jackie and Jon get personal and share some of their favorite personal dating fails.  While the stories are awkward and painful (if not a little embarrassing) there is a silver lining- Jon and Jackie got better at having good close connected relationships, and you can too.  Take a listen to learn how.

Episode 83: Why do new relationships feel so weird (sometimes)? Part 1

May 29, 2018

Jon and Jackie take a look at the merging of two separate people and cultures when a new relationship is formed.  In this episode, we explore some of the gifts recovery gives us prior to "feeling the pull" to enter new relationships.


Episode 82: The Unbroken Brain with Maia Szalavitz

May 21, 2018
We are excited to have Maia Szalavitz on today to talk about her new book The Unbroken Brain.

Maia Szalavitz is one of the premier American journalists covering addiction and drugs. She is co-author of Born for Love and The Boy Who Was Raised as a Dog, both with Dr. Bruce D. Perry. Her book, Help at Any Cost is the first book-length exposé of the “tough love” business that dominates addiction treatment. She writes for TIME.com, VICE, the New York Times, Scientific American Mind, Elle, Psychology Today and Marie Claire among others.

Maia sheds light on understanding addiction as a learning disorder rather than a brain disease as well as the key connection between addiction and love.  You won't want to miss this episode.

Episode 81: Stages of Relationships

April 30, 2018

Jackie and Jon examine the often confusing and arbitrary "relationship stages" we all expect to go through in every single one of our romantic relationships.  We will take a look at questions like:

"Should I ever date friends?"
"How do I learn to listen to my intuition in my romantic relationships?"
"When is it the right time to 'move to the next level'?"
"How do I know when it's time to get out?"

Episode 80: What is Authenticity?

April 24, 2018


Jackie and Jon follow up on a nugget from a previous episode where we mentioned that authenticity was not expressed in emotionally vomiting.  Today, we talk about what goes into living and expressing the self authentically.  We discuss if authenticity always feels good, and common short-cuts to authenticity.

Episode 79: Male Partners of Sex Addicts

April 16, 2018

We recently received an email from a listener who is a male partner of a female sex addict.  He rightly observed that there are some special challenges in healing in those circumstances.

We are dedicating this epsiode today to examine why it can be extra painful for men who are with female sex addicts to get the help and support they may need.
We also mentioned resources for male sex addicts looking for qualified therapists to help them.  www.sexhelp.com and https://www.apsats.org/specialists#!directory/map are good places to start.

Episode 78: Dating in Recovery with Amy Smith

April 9, 2018

We welcome Amy Smith with Worth Recovery on again (You can hear her on Episode 58) to talk about our joint venture One Layer Deeper.  We are excited to announce these weekend intensives focused on taking your relationships in recovery one layer deeper.

You can learn more about One Layer Deeper by visiting our website www.onelayerdeeper.com.
In this episode, we explore some practical dos and don'ts for dating in recovery, the role of artificial timelines, and the question of dating other people in recovery.

Episode 77: Talking with Mari Lee

April 2, 2018

We talk with our friend and returning guest Mari Lee about current affairs and why so much emotion is evoked around large issues like #metoo, politics, guns, and the like.

Jackie and Mari also mentioned a quote from David Bowie- here it is in its entirety.

“And these children that you spit on
As they try to change their worlds
Are immune to your consultations.
They're quite aware of what they're going through.